CARPologyTV – Does oscillation really affect distance? In association with Shimano

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CARPology’s Joe Wooltorton meets up with Shimano’s Ian Smith and Mike Dagnall to put their new reels to the test and find out if oscillation and line diameter really make a difference to distance.

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17 Comments
  1. cotsworld carper says

    5 mins from my house I know that filed well used to have massive carboots on there

  2. Tony Bradbury says

    Strange how an xtd is only 15 yards or so less yet it can be bought for around £100 and the tech mgs is rrp 699.99 worth the extra money.Terry Edmonds puts a lead alot further with reels without slow oscillation.

  3. Alex brooks says

    Could of used a diawa 27 turns to the mags 50 then that would of given a true answer.

  4. isomodzz99 says

    Just advertisement for the shitty reel

  5. Darryl Clarkson says

    My only gripe with Shimano is the line clips are crap.

  6. carp ecosse says

    Shitty video u didnt even tell us the distances and the diffrence all u said was its obviously longer blah blah why not just title the video is it worth paying three times as much for this reel just to give u an extra 5yds on the cast

  7. Matthew Harris says

    This doesn’t prove anything. Both these guys work for shimano lol. And shimano have been claiming that all the Tx range of rods can achieve distances of 200 yards, including the tx 2 that now costs £60 lol. This test needs to be done with various rods that costs £50 upwards reels without slow oscillation. And then compare the distances with a shimano rod that costs £600 and the reel that costs £700. Also ,£700 Daiwa reels don’t have slow oscillation, and some people swear by them for long distance. Also Terry Edmonds says that he can chuck 200 yards with reels that cost less than £100. Carpology need to do the test themselves without sponsors from these Brands involved. And then we will finally get the truth 🙄

  8. 2B Sure says

    Terry Edmonds claims his longest cast was with a much cheaper reel

  9. Our Love of Carp says

    Is it me or are full piece camo tracksuits the worst thing ever?!

  10. Danny Edwards says

    How is this a fair test when you're casting in different directions. Change in direction changes the conditions- not least influence of wind and elevation. I'm expecting you guys can cast accurately to a marker, so why splay the casts in a 30degree or so radius? And from opposite directions?? Also is the spool of a similar size? Is the spool lip of the same angle/material? Thanks for sharing your findings, I assume you got the results you were aiming to show – but to those of us that have ever really done any kind of 'scientific tests' your conclusion is a summing up opinion so is simply unreliable due to your inclusion of error in test design. I would posit that the change in direction of line leaving the spool- from line uncoiling into the cast from bottom to top, and top to bottom of the spool itself creates a change in tension on the 'flying' line. More frequent tension changes introduce both slack and drag, slack and drag etc – it seems only congruent to reason that fewer direction changes may minimise disruption to flying line forces. Sure, many anglers wouldn't notice a spelling mistake in the angling times and as such would merely value your opinion on cast per oscillation rate as being better-or-worse….but to be frank your poor test design, and hence poor display of results to visual comparison – actually gives the watcher nothing more than the impression that they can ''go longer with good line-lay, than with poorer line-lay''…yet doesn't actually Evidence this under similar conditions. You guys may be very adept anglers, but you're going to need a better 'science guy' to call your test 'scientific'. Otherwise it's a good video

  11. Backs4more says

    What the video proves is that a slow oscillation does not cast as far as a super slow oscillation. It DOES NOT show that a slow oscillation casts further than a standard reel. we have already seen the Daiwa Castizm out casts a lot of slow oscillation big pits. My old Emblems with the Tournament spools cast miles compared to my Slow Oscillation reels. So much so that I have sold them (Ultegras XSC)If you look at Danny Moeskops who holds just about every distance record for fixed spool, he set them with an old Daiwa 9000GS or the 6000T. Both reels have a Tournament spool and "normal" line lay. I am pretty sure he would be beating those casts with a Shimano if they could indeed cast further.That's not a statement saying Daiwa is better, just that slow oscillation needs casting against other distance reels with more normal operation and line lay for a true understanding and comparison.

  12. johngmls says

    I'm a big Shimano fan but feel this only proves that super slow oscillation Shimano reels cast further than slow oscillation Shimano reels. As there were no figures for the casts it pretty much makes the whole thing irrelevant as we may be talking a couple of metres. Since there is a huge difference in cost I am surprised Shimano did not reveal the difference to boost sales of the much more expensive reel. Maybe there wasn't a lot of difference which is why they would not like to publicise it, who knows?
    To be really relevant the reels should have been compared against Basia's, and other big pit reels using the same rods, lines, caster etc and giving the distances so the test would actually give real info. This is nearly as bad as that video with Lee Jackson testing test curves on a rod, search for "Rod Test Curves – Bivvy.TV", for being a major opportunity to provide viewers with something useful but was made to be useless.

  13. Aurel-Marius Vilau says

    that 400+ pound rod[ with the latest in carbon wrapping technology}, dangles like a 50 pound 2.75 lb rod

  14. Kingcarp says

    Absolute crap. Nuff said!!..

  15. Krom1hell says

    I'm pushing 200m with a 200 pounds setup :))…..feeder and big pit :))
    But then I've bought this year the Ultegra XTD, so i'm in their camp.
    I still think that technique will get you farther than just whacking it with the best gear :)).

  16. Remi V. says

    Rubish. This should have been done with regular oscillation reels like the Daiwa and then the Shimanos .

  17. Paul Franciosi says

    Loads of fisheries insist on using 15lb line or higher Bs.What about fast taper rods will get you further than semi or parabolic taper using slow osillation .

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